This page is out of date – Go here to see the complete list of manufacturers currently producing riding mowers, tractors and zero turns: Riding Mower Brands – The Complete list
There is still a lot of confusion and misinformation about who makes the current lawn and garden tractors so I am going to list the information again differently so more of you can find the right info. This list will also include the non-zero turn riders and multi-purpose tractors like the Husqvarna Articulated and Ventrac.
American homeowners have mowed lawns and tilled garden with these since the 50’s. The love affair for the tractor style mower has always been a mystery to the manufactures because there are so many more efficient ways to mow your lawn and maintain your garden. But the desire still lives on. Today’s lawn tractors mow faster, are more fuel efficient and in general cost much less than the ones built in the 60’s and 70’s. If the price of a lawn tractor kept up with inflation a typical one today would cost over $25,000! They are one of the best consumer bargains on the planet. The 1975 36 inch, 10 hp Craftsman lawn tractor sold for $1099 in the catalog. The 16 hp Sears Garden Tractor was $1969 plus $484 for the 48-inch deck. You could buy a 1975 Ford F-150 truck for about the same price, $2778.90 or $2200 out the door. House: $42,600. Gas: $0.57. Bread: $0.28. Gallon of Milk: $1.40. Stamp: 13 cents. Every other area of the economy except lawn tractors and computers now cost 10 times as much. (1976 Apple computer sold for $666.)
This article lists:
1. All manufacturers currently producing lawn tractors, yard tractors and garden tractors for sale in the United States.
2. What brands names are used by these manufacturers
3. I will list many of the brands no longer being made.
I’ve included multi-purpose riding mowers and tractors in this article but it does not include the dedicated mowers like zero-turns. Go here to see the complete manufactures currently riding mowers, tractors and zero turns: Riding Mower Brands
1. Current Manufactures:
These manufacturers make all of the lawn tractors, yard tractors or garden tractors. They all have assembly plants here in the U.S. and except where noted all of the tractors you will find at your local dealer, Sears, Home Depot, Lowes, and Tractor Supply are made here in the U.S.
MTD: All lawn tractors, garden tractors, and zero-turns are assembled in various locations around the U.S. I’m not sure where the assembly of the rider takes place.
Husqvarna: All riders, lawn tractors, garden tractors, and zero-turns are made at their assembly plant in South Carolina. The Articulated Rider is made in Europe.
John Deere: All riders, lawn tractors, garden tractors, and zero-turns are made at their assembly plants in Greenville, TN and Horicon, WI
Briggs & Stratton: All riders, lawn tractors, garden tractors, and zero-turns are made at their assembly plants in the U’S. Simplicity is made in Port Washington, Wi? Snapper mowers are made in McDonough, Georgia, Munnsville, New York, and Tupelo, MS.
Kubota: – Kubota Manufacturing of America (KMA) is Kubota’s North American manufacturing base. KMA manufactures and assembles Kubota lawn tractors, zero-turn mowers, sub-compact tractors, utility vehicles, loaders, backhoes, and other implements. Today, approximately one-half of all Kubota branded equipment sold in the United States is manufactured or assembled at its 151-acre Gainesville, Georgia facility.
Stiener: – Manufactured by Schiller Grounds Care, Inc, Johnson Creek facility in Johnson Creek, Wisconsin.
Ventrac: – Manufactured by – Venture Products, Inc. in Orrville, Ohio, USA
Denver Global Products: Their assembly plant and warehouse is in LINCOLNTON, NC. The Raven is a completely new and refreshing way to work around your property. It looks like an ATV, drives like your favorite Golf Car, mows like a commercial zero-turn and has a built-in self-propelled portable/standby generator!
2. Current Brands Names For Lawn & Garden Tractors:
Allis Chalmers Lawn Tractors – Current manufacture – Briggs & Stratton. You will see this line mainly at Simplicity and ag dealers. In 2008, Briggs & Stratton Power Products, LLC, announced it would be restoring the Allis-Chalmers brand to the lawn and garden industry with two new lawn tractors. Available at Simplicity dealerships, the tractors harken back to the glory days of the Allis-Chalmers farm tractor. The design of the new AC130 lawn tractor is reminiscent of these products, leaning heavily on the familiar orange color and distinctive Allis-Chalmers logo.
Ariens Lawn Tractors – Current lawn and garden tractors are made for Ariens by Husqvarna Outdoor Products. Ariens owns the brand. Ariens® lawn and garden equipment has been the choice of discerning homeowners for more than 75 years. Built tough but easy to operate, Ariens delivers a heritage of reliable performance, year after year. Ariens products are available at independent power equipment dealers in North America and Europe, The Home Depot stores, broad-line MRO (maintenance, repair and operating) suppliers, regional farm retailers and select online retailers.
Bolens Lawn Tractors – Current manufacture – MTD – The name is only used for low priced Yard Machines style lawn tractors. MTD owns the Brand
Craftsman Lawn Tractors – Current lawn tractors are made for Craftsman by MTD. Sears Holdings Company owns the brand
Craftsman Yard & Garden Tractors – Current yard and garden tractors are made for Craftsman by Husqvarna Outdoor Products. Sears Holdings Company owns the brand. With a best-in-class 6″ turning radius
and a new top speed of 7.5 mph, no other mower turns this tightly and cuts this quickly.
Craftsman Pro – Current lawn tractors are made for Craftsman by MTD. Sears Holdings Company owns the brand
Cub Cadet Lawn & Garden Tractors – Current manufacture – MTD. MTD owns the Brand. MTD was founded over 80 years ago based on some basic values: Stewardship; Integrity; Hard Work; Reliance on and Respect for People; Innovation; Willingness to take Risks; Gratitude for Customers and Promotion from Within. Today, we’re proud to say these values still continue to drive our decisions. They’ve been integral to our success and growth.
Dixon Lawn Tractors – Discontinued – Husqvarna Outdoor Products. Husqvarna owns the Brand
Husqvarna Lawn Tractors, Husqvarna Riders – Current manufacture – Husqvarna Outdoor Products. Husqvarna owns the Brand. What makes a Husqvarna? How come people all over the world expect a certain feel and finish when picking up, or getting on, a Husqvarna product? We’d like to think that our significant experience has a lot to do with it – of which we have almost 400 years.
John Deere 100 and 300 Series Lawn Tractors – Current manufacture – John Deere. Since its founding in 1837, John Deere has seen a great many changes in its business, its products, its services. Change always comes with opportunity. And Deere has always been ready and willing to embrace it. Yet, through it all, John Deere is still dedicated to those who are linked to the land – farmers and ranchers, landowners, builders, and loggers. And Deere has never outgrown, nor forgotten, its founder’s original core values. Those values determine the way we work, the quality we offer, and the unsurpassed treatment you get as a customer, investor, employee.
Kubota Lawn Tractors – Current manufacture – Kubota Manufacturing of America. Kubota Manufacturing of America (KMA) was formed in 1988 as Kubota’s North American manufacturing base. KMA manufactures and assembles Kubota lawn tractors, zero-turn mowers, sub-compact tractors, utility vehicles, loaders, backhoes, and other implements. Today, approximately one-half of all Kubota branded equipment sold in the United States is manufactured or assembled at its Gainesville, Georgia facility.
Massey Ferguson Lawn Tractors – Current manufacture – Primarily sold in Canada – Briggs & Stratton.
Poulan Lawn Tractors, Poulan Pro Lawn Tractors – Current manufacture – Husqvarna Outdoor Products. Husqvarna owns the Brand
Simplicity Lawn & Garden Tractors – Current manufacture – Briggs & Stratton. Briggs & Stratton owns the Brand
Snapper Lawn Tractors – Current manufacture – Briggs & Stratton. Briggs & Stratton owns the Brand
Steiner Lawn Tractors – Current manufacture – Schiller Grounds Care. Steiner production is now done through the Johnson Creek facility in Johnson Creek, Wisconsin with a new and bright outlook for the future.
Toro Lawn & Garden Tractors – Current lawn and garden tractors are made for Toro by MTD. Toro owns the Brand
Troy-Bilt Lawn Tractors – Current manufacture – MTD. MTD owns the Brand
Ventrac Lawn Tractors – Current manufacture – Venture Products, Inc. VENTRAC’s versatility offers over 30 different attachments. Combining these with our Ventrac Mount System (less than a minute to attach or detach attachments) gives you a small power pack designed for maximum performance and versatility for many different market places, including the following: Landscapers, Municipalities, Churches, Universities, Golf Courses, Homeowners, Parks, Sport Facilities, Shopping Malls, Tree Growers, Rental Yards, Nurseries, Airports and much more. Venture Products, Inc. has two major facilities in Orrville, Ohio, USA.
White Lawn Tractors – Current manufacture – MTD – The name is only used for low priced Yard Machines style lawn tractors. MTD owns the Brand
Yard Machines & Yardman Lawn Tractors – Current manufacture – MTD – MTD owns the Brand
No Longer Made Brands:
There have been over 100 different brands of lawn tractors that are no longer made and here is a list of the most common ones. Many of these were popular in the 60’s and the majority of them used horizontal shaft motors, heavy channel frames, and automotive style gear drive transmissions. In general, they were just horrible to drive compared to today’s equipment. (source TractorData.com database.) If you would like to see what they looked like just do a Google image search. for example search “Ford Lawn Tractor” or “Panzer Garden Tractor”
AGCO
Amigo
Colt
Dixon
Deutz-Allis
Ford
General Electric
Gravely
Honda
Huffy
Ingersoll
Iseki
J.I. Case
Jacobsen
Mayrath
Minneapolis-Moline
New Holland
Oliver
Panzer
Roper
Sabre
Scotts
Sears
Springfield
Wheel Horse
Yard-Man
I know there are names I missed. If you know of a lawn tractor brand that is not listed, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Andy E
Hi, I’m really torn between two riding tractors; the Cub Cadet 42″ XT1 & the new Craftsman 90th Anniversary 20HP Briggs & Stratton. Do you have any opinions between the two mowers or preferences that could help me make a wiser decision. I have a small-medium sized yard with a few mature trees with a slight hill away from house (walk out basement). Any help is appreciated!!
Paul
Hi Andy, Yes that is a tough choice.
– I like the 20HP V-Twin Briggs a lot. It’s a very smooth running engine. The single cylinder Kohler in the Cub Cadet has a good counter balancer so it also has very little vibration.
– CR states that the 42 inch deck on the Cub cuts better but they only test on a flat lawn. One of the main reasons it does mow well is the frame is very stiff. The Craftsman in my opinion handles a typical lawn with dips and bumps better because the tractor’s frame has a little give so it twists through the rough areas and that allows the deck to mow well.
– the transmission in the Craftsman is stronger but some people complain the foot pedal is too high. If your shoe size is less than a size eight you may want to buy the Cub Cadet.
– Craftsman has the 6 inch turn tight steering. The Cub cadet has the standard 16 inch turning radius.
Andy E
Thank you for the help! Looks like I will be going with the Craftsman due to the bumps and hills that my yard has, thank you again for your thoughts!
M. Arant
Who actually makes the Craftsman 90th Anniversary mower?
Paul
@M. That tractor is made at the Husqvarna Outdoor Products facility in South Carolina.
Dale
Interested in ventrac or Steiner Do you have any preference Dale minnesota
Paul
Hi Dale, I’ve been very impressed with Ventrac the last couple of years. They have expanded their attachments so you can do just about anything with their tractors. I like the fact that by adding duals you can mow slopes up to 30 degree.
Just about anything the Steiner can do a small compact tractor can do better.
bernard bedor
had a toro 42 inch zero turn timecutter great machine but i put in a new lawn in 2015 and put in a grass called dark durable i live in massachusetts and the seed i used is great but very hardy when using the zero turn it coiuld not bag the thick grass because as you know the timecutter is a home owners mower not enough or faster rotation to pick up the clippings i cut about half acre flat lawn thinking about x mark zero turn 48 with ultra vac system with the new x mark v twin engine on it no more kawaski engines i know its pricy but its a x mark even the store i bought it from said the timecutter is a home machine for very thin lawns mine is very THICK i mean you cannot see the bottom of the blades in the grass it so thick thank you
Paul
HI Bernard, Yes, because push mowers collect grass clippings everyone assumes that the lawn tractors and zero turns will do the same. In reality the bagger for residential riding mowers is really for leaves and dry grass. Most of the time it will not bag green grass very well.
As soon as you add the auxiliary blower then you can bag clippings. I like the ExMark mowers. Their deck arguably the best cutting deck and yes, I used them to bag grass clipping in the rain.
David Pinter
Good Morning Paul. I have 2 acres in Granbury TX and I am looking for a zero turn that will do a good job and get me through the mowing quick. The lawn is basically flat. No hills or terrain to be concerned with but one shallow grass covered ditch and a large fenced back yard. Cut weekly from March to November. Seeking the best machine in the $3K range to make the work easy. Neighbors are saying buy the Kohler engine no matter what. I also want the deck and transmission to last. Your suggestions are appreciated!!
Paul
Hi David, Thanks for the detailed description. I’m going to ask you to start with this article: Best Zero Turn Mowers 2017 – How To Choose The Right One!. This will get you started with what is available in your price range.
ROBERTO GOMEZ
I really don’t have a big yard but I want me the craftsman t 3100 20 HP 90 anniversary machine ,kind of a Tim Allen in Home Improvement guy, is this mower any good?
Paul
Hi Roberto, Yes, that is a good mower and I really like the price! You get the 6 inch turn-tight steering, a good cutting deck and a good engine. It’s the same Craftsman lawn tractor that lasts people years and years.
David
I have about an acre lot and am trying to decide between the Craftsman 42″ Pro and the Craftsman 42″ 90th Anniversary mowers. The specs on both look very similar except the Pro has the Kohler engine and the 90th Anniversary model has the Briggs & Stratton V engine. Right now, Pro is $1800 and 90th Anniversary model is $1400. Is the Pro worth $400 more?
Paul
HI David, They are two completely different tractors. 90th Anniversary is built by Husqvarna and that’s very appropriate because Craftsman/Sears has been using that factory since the 1960’s to make their tractors. The Pro is made by MTD.
The 90th has the 6 inch turn-tight – the Pro has a 16 inch turning radius so if you have a lot of tree to go around the 90th is better. The 90th has the CVT trans – the Pro has a hydrostatic so if you have slopes or like to pull carts full of dirt the CVT in the 90th will last longer. If you have a smooth yard the Pro will give you the best cut. If you have an older, rougher lawn the 90th is the way to go. The 90th has a better selection of baggers. The Pro has a better seat. The 20 HP v-twins are both good engines but the Pro’s Kohler will give you a little better torque if you are the type to let your grass get long before you cut it.
The deck on the Pro is stronger but that is only a choice if you bang into stuff a lot or have teenagers that mow as fast as the tractor will go. The deck on the 90th will still last years and years.
The price is appropriate for both machines – I’d be happy with both for my one acre yard – but you will have to decide which one is the best for you.
The Craftsman 42″ 20 HP V-Twin Briggs & Stratton 90th Anniversary Auto Riding Mower (LTD Edition)
The Craftsman Pro Series 42″ 20 HP V-Twin Kohler Hydrostatic Riding Mower w/ Smart Lawn Bluetooth Technology
Chip Bonee
I’m conducting research and trying to determine either: How many riding mowers are sold annually, or the annual production of riding mowers in the US.
Paul
@Chip, good luck with that. Two of the 5 major manufacturers and most of the 50 or so minor manufacturers are privately owned. (Though the engine manufacturers are all publicly owned.
Samantha
Is craftsman or John Deere the best for the money and warranty
Paul
Hi Samantha, The 2 year factory defects warranty for Craftsman and John Deere are the same. They cover the same items.
The best for the money is a much harder question to answer. The best tractor for you answer starts with how big is your lawn, what else you want to do with your rider, where do you shop, etc.
For example, 42 inch lawn tractor. Craftsman makes a version for $1000, 1200, 1400, 1500, 1600 & 1800. John Deere makes versions for $1500, 1800, 2400, 3000, & 4000.
For example, if you are standing in Lowes looking at the JD lawn tractors there – There is cheaper line of Craftsman lawn tractors, an equivalent line (Yard Tractor) and a better quality line (Craftsman Pro). In general the Craftsman Pro tractors are a better value. The answer is not as clear if you standing in the John Deere dealer though.
It also depends on how big your ego is. Some guys just have to have that $4000 John Deere X370.
Jan
any recommendations for a lawn mower with leaf vacuum?
Paul
Hi Jan, A leaf vacuum like the Craftsman Chipper Vac requires a tractor with a heavy-duty rear axle. The three Craftsman Pro Garden tractors in this article are a perfect choice. Craftsman Pro Garden Tractors 2017 – Buyer’s Guide
The attachment that hangs on the back of the tractor to collect the leaves is commonly called a bagger. With residential mowers it is usually not self powered. If you meant a bagger instead may I please get a little more info from you it will help me narrow down the choices. How big is your yard? Do you have more deciduous trees like Oak or more pine trees with needles?
John
Paul how u doing my name is John I have a toro lx 420 twin cam riding tractor will a simplicity blower model number 1691521 fit my tractor
Paul
Hi John, No, most brands will not cross fit and in most case most models will not cross fit.
Paul Hoppel
Hello, I’ve ruined two hydrostatic transmissions cutting my hills. Which lawn or garden tractor would you recommend? How about the new Raven? Thank you, Paul
Paul
Hi Paul, I really need more information to help you. How steep are your hills, what city,st do you live in so I know the type of grass. Are you mowing lawn, pasture or timber? How big is the property? Why. Because there are many ways to go for example, garden tractor, steering wheel zero-turn, sub-compact or compact tractor. Maybe I can’t suggest a mower because you are cutting hills steeper than 15 degrees.
Kelly C
Hi Paul, I have about an acre, slight hill and field areas included. I am looking for suggestions on the best rider for the money preferably under $2000. I have read so many reviews, I’m totally confused on what to buy. Can you make any suggestion?
Sally
I have a Craftsman 917.203910 22 HP 48″ cut mower. There is grease (a lot) on the inside of my rear tires. It looks like it was “flung” there as it is evenly distributed. There are grease fitting on the axle which I greased as per the manual. The place that I get things fixed said I really shouldn’t grease those fittings unless it has been at least a year because they have seen too much grease and the axle blow out. I did grease them because the manual shows to do it. Sears repairman came out and he said I need a new Trans-axle that it is leaking. The tractor still runs, but the gas pedal sticks and the mower goes forward/reverse by itself. Did I do something wrong?
Paul
Hi Sally, I’m going to say – No, you didn’t do anything wrong. Let’s check to make sure what the problem is though.
Is the tractor still under the 2 year warranty? If is is have the tech replace the trans.
If the grease is coming out of the transmission then it will need to be repaired. Is the grease coming out of the are between the black case and the silver axle or is it coming from where the wheel rim fits on the axle.
If it’s coming from the wheel rim, it’s just excess and wipe it off (clean with Dawn)
If it’s coming from the transmission the axle seal is bad. The Sears tech doesn’t know how to replace that $2.50 part and will want to charge you $800 to replace the trans instead. If it’s out of warranty take it to a local repair shop and have them get parts from here: General Transmissions Parts. You have an RS800P transmission.
Bob S.
I mow about 1 acre with a hilly lawn. I tried out an Ariens Zoom 42in model #915213 zero turn and it worked fine but want a good mulching capability… so am also considering the troy bilt xp mustang 42. First question would you recommend one over the other? and 2nd question: Is there any concern about using the hydrostatic units as the “brakes” when descending a steep slope? (i.e. does it put added pressure on them or cause damage that you are aware of?) Thanks for any info provided.
Paul
Hi Bob, Please read my article on why a zero turn may not be for you. When you are done come back and read my reply here.
Steep is any slope over 15 degrees and none of the brands make a mower that will mow slopes steeper than that.
I don’t recommend either mower for steep hills. Consumer Reports doesn’t either. They are not safe and you will wreck the transmissions within a few years. You can’t use the rear wheels as brakes because they will slip and slide. You will go crashing down the hill like you were on a snow saucer. (any one who disagrees with me has never mowed on hills and had one get away from them)
All residential zero-turns (under $4500 or so) have this problem. An alternative is the steering wheel zero-turns but they will also slide down a hill if it’s too steep.
Kym
Hi. I am looking at 2 mowers.
Craftsman 247204400 (about $1200) and Poulan 960420194 (about $1500)
They both have the same Kohler engine and both have 42″ cut. To me everything looks the same (specs) but the Craftsman is about $300 cheaper. Do you have a suggestion? Are they essentially the same mower? They are both at the Sears Outlet.
Thanks.
Paul
Hi Kym, The 247.20440 is the better deal because it is discounted more. Make sure it has been repaired and that you can bring it back if there is a problem. It should also have the complete 2 year Craftsman warranty.
FYI: they are both good tractors. The 247 is made for Craftsman by MTD. The Poulan Pro is made by Husqvarna and is similar to the red Craftsman (917) lawn tractors.
Al Studdard
I have about 3/4 acre, I’m looking at buying either a Cub Cadet RZT® S 42 or an eXmark QSS708GEM42200, which is the better mower
Paul
Hi Al, That’s easy. The ExMark. It is worth the extra $1000 over the residential ZTR’s like the RZT S series.
max butler
I mow a very rough 2+ acres of what was formerly a beautiful forest that burned to the ground a while back. My Ariens Hydro tractor does a pretty good job but I’ve replaced three mandrels because the aluminum breaks at the bolt. Is there a mower that is as strong as the Ariens that doesn’t have aluminum mandrels?
Paul
Yes, but they cost $15,000 or more. The sub-compact and compact tractors with welded decks and cast iron spindle housings have the strength to do that type of work.
Mark Cohn
Paul,
Which would you buy and why? I live Slidell, LA and have to cut about an acre plus winter rye in the winter. I have a 10 year old Sears 54″ riding tractor with a V-twin Kohler that I stays in the garage plus I run synthetic oil. It won’t die but the deck is getting kind of old. I really want a ZTR so I can cut my yard quicker. Which would you recommend?
Dirty Hand Tools 60″ 23HP Kawasaki Zero Turn or RZT-L 46 in. 688cc Fabricated Deck HONDA V-Twin Dual-Hydro Zero-Turn Riding Mower with Bluetooth or Husqvarna z246 21.5hp 726cc kawasaki engine 46 z-turn mower
Thanks,
Mark
Paul
Hi Mark, The DHT is made in China. The Cub Cadet RZT-L is a good mower but don’t waste your money on the Honda engine. The standard RZT-L with the Kohler 7000 is a very good deal. The Kohler is a good engine.
The Husqvarna is their latest mower and has been getting good reviews. Again. if they want a premium for the Kaw over a Kohler – it’s not worth it. Kawasaki commercial engines have a good reputation but the residential models like this one are no better than the Kohler.
Mark
Is there really any difference between the 30″ Murray and the 30″ Troy-built rear engine riding mower? Look like the same thing
Paul
Hi Mark, Two things, 1. The 420 cc engine on the Troy-Bilt has more power and is a better engine than the Briggs on the Murray. The 420 has an oil pump and oil filter for long life. 2. The warranty service network for the Murray is pretty much non-existent. I don’t have one listed within 100 miles of my location.
If you want the best service and ease of parts I suggest the Craftsman version: t’s on sale right now for $949. Link: Craftsman Rear Engine Rider
Dennis S
Hi Paul,
I am looking at two Craftsman tractors, both with 54 inch decks. One is a Pro Series 98645 on sale at a very good price~$2950. This is made by Husqvarna and has a stronger “Hydro” transmission and a nice deck that looks stronger than the newer Pro Series 20445 which is made by MTD. I am concerned about the EZ blade change system on the 98645 and availability of blades. Also there have been some negative comments about the front wheels and axles. The newer Pro 20445 has slightly tighter steering but a K58 transmission and the deck looks a bit weaker. The sale price is about $3100. I mow about 2+ acres of fairly level ground. Any reason to prefer one over the other?
Paul
Hi Dennis, That 98645 is old, discontinued stock and the price should be somewhere around $2000-2200. Are you at a Sears Hometown? They are franchise stores and make up their own prices (sometimes)
Yes, I am very concerned about the quick change blade system. I think the little plastic covers will be broke all the time and finding blades may be a big problem in a couple of years. Even Husqvarna (who owns the design) is discontinuing it.
Yes, the front axle/steering if a lot lighter/weaker than the new Pro. If you mow flat, smooth land you won’t have an issue though.
Here is the full list of the remaining ones available. http://www.searsoutlet.com/d/inventory_details.jsp?cid=6471&pid=125650&mode=seeAll&to=cart&pn=1&ps=10&disp=sel&ffmChannelDelModeInApp=BOTH&deals=No&itemSelectionType=&&zip=54729.
Consumer Reports rates the newer (247) 20445 Craftsman Pro 54 inch as a much better cutting deck.
The K58 in the 247, 20445 Pro is a garden tractor/ground engaging transmission. It is also used in tractors costing over $6000. Yes, the G730 in the 98645 is also ground engaging and yes, it has been around a long time.
Dennis S
Hi Paul,
You are right on!! The tractor is at my Sears Hometown store so I am thankful for the headsup on current prices. Also, I really appreciate your feedback on the EZ blade system, weaker axles, and the better 54 in deck on the latest 20445 model. I was originally looking at the Cub Cadet GX54 but I like the new Craftsman better. Thanks again for your great forum.
gene rathel
How about a Huskee riding mower. Good or Bad!
Paul
Hi Gene, If you are going for the least expensive riding mower the Huskee and the Craftsman lawn tractors hold that headline. If you are just mowing 1/2 acre or so, do all the required maintenance, pick up your rocks/twigs and don’t hit stuff it will last. If you let your teenager learn to mow and hot rod around the timber it will last about 6 months.
dix
Hi Paul,
Do you know who makes the Dirty Hand Tools 60 inch ZTR found at Home Depot and Sears? Seems like a sturdy ZTR at a good price, but there is little info about it, and the DHT website (dirtyhandtools.com) has no info about it.
Thank you!
Paul
Hi DIX, it’s a chinese made machine. DHT states they have 1000’s of repair centers but most of theses repair centers have never heard of them. If you get sucked into the low price be sure to check with your local mower repair shop before you buy to see if they will do the warranty work.
Tim Stewart
I am getting a Bolens rider for my birthday as a gift,are these things really as bad as people claim?My concerns are the deck leveling,and longevity of the mower.Reviews seem consistently bad on these.Not sure which model I am getting,or I can if there are more than just one model,but it seems like it was made in the past 5-10 years.
Paul
Hi Tim, It depends. The ones built 20-30 years ago were the best on the market at the time.
The current Bolens is the same tractor as the base Troy-Bilt and Yard Machines. They are not heavy-duty mowers but I know many owners who have a smaller yard and take care of their equipment who’s Bolens tractors last well over 10 years.
Free is good – work with it.
Jeff Boyd
Hi Paul, all this bigger is better reminds me of Top Gear and is way overated IMO. I’m working on a .7 acre partially wooded and mildly sloped lawn with a trusty 24 year old Murray using a simple B&S 11hp engine that simply never quits. The maintenance is minor like a few belts, pulleys, and minor work I do and I cannot complain.
Funny story though. Its had a tough start problem for a few years so I took a compression test and found out I’m at 30% of normal and thats confirmed by a leak down test. All the time I’m cutting and pulling I seriously have never thought it was weak but apparently I was running at around 3.5hp all that time lol! Now I had the valves done and I can feel it pull stronger but cmon it was doing fine before and I usually mow at high speed to finish quickly. Now the lawn is not the highest quality or very lush but its taken care of regularly and has a bunch of obstacles like roots and bumps all over.. I know its time to upgrade but it still keeps pushing along.
Now in cars yeah I bought the new vette in 2015 but its just a mower right?
Paul
Hi Jeff, It really depends on where you live and how you take care of your mower. Thin grass is typical with a wooded lot, pick up your sticks and keep the mower inside and you don’t need an expensive one to mow the yard. But, try to mow some of the southern grasses with your Murray and it will last all of a week.
Ryan H
Hello Paul,
I am currently looking into the new Allis Chalmers line of lawn mowers and have been big into AC since I was little so finding out someone brought the name back has made me happy. Question is, do you have any experience with those mowers and would you recommend one? Currently using an ’89 Wheel Horse 520-H
Thanks
Paul
Hi Ryan, Briggs & Stratton owns the rights to the lawn tractor name as far as I know. They are a cross between a Simplicity Regent and the 4-wheel steer model Snapper had. They were selling them in eastern Canada a couple of years ago but I am not aware of anywhere to buy one at this time in the U.S.
Mary
We live in New Port Richey, FL and last summer put in a zoysia lawn. It has now taken root pretty good and we are having a hard time mowing it to the shortness that is recommended (2″) Our mower is a riding MTD and several years old. I think it doesn’t have the horsepower to handle the density of our zoysia. Can you recommend a zero turn mower for zoysia?
Paul
Hi Mary, I’m not an expert on mowing Zoysia. All I know is it takes a lot of power and a really good deck to mow it well.
The best cutting deck and a large engine award goes to the Craftsman Pro Series 46″ 24 HP V-Twin Kohler Riding Mower with Turn Tight® Extreme. Both Consumer Reports and I both like it for how well it cuts and it does have one of the largest engines for it’s size.
People really like the mower and I’ve had almost no complaints about it.
Richard Pelon
I presently own a country clipper, zero turn, 42″ cut w/19 HP Kawasaki & toggle stick control. Thinking about up gradeing to a Ferris 50 or 60 inch cut with independent front suspension. Who manufacturers these mowers ? Can any zero turn be ordered or converted to a toggle stick control ?
Paul
Hi Richard, Ferris is owned by Briggs & Stratton. They also own Simplicity and Snapper.
Country Clipper owns the patent on the single joystick so they are the only brand that sells ZTR with the joystick.
Now suspension on the ZTR itself does nothing except give you a bouncy cut. Most commercial cutters buy the Ferris because of the novelty but go to a conventional ZTR for the next machine. Other machines cut better and with less moving parts they last longer.
If you want a smooth ride get a suspension seat or a suspension operator’s platform. A new Country Clipper with a Suspension Seat will give you the cut you expect and a smooth ride.
Mike E
Hi Paul,
Thanks for maintaining such a great site. I was looking at the Husqvarna YTA24V48. The Husqvarna website says it has a “Fast CVT” transmission. Last years model, the YTH24V28, had a K57 “Fast Hydro” transmission. In other post you have spoken highly of the General Transmission CVT so I was pleased to see it offered in the Husqvarna this year however the dealer told me the YTA model has a plastic housing on the transmission. I assumed the CVT would be an RS 800 made of metal so hopefully you can shed some light on this subject. By the way I have 1.5 acres in Williamsburg VA, walkout basement so I cut the sides with a push mower, rolling lawn with several rough areas in the rear near the tree line. Also there are lots of ornamental trees to cut around. so I am also considering a steering wheel zero turn. I like the Toro 4200SW but would like to know how the new Craftsman steering wheel zero turn compares.
Thanks,
Mike
Paul
Hi Mike, Too bad your dealer is stuck in the 60’s. Why would he not know that these new resin cases are better. The RS 800 is this “plastic” transmission. (http://todaysmower.com/general-transmissions-now-has-a-u-s-parts-service-and-sales-center/), http://todaysmower.com/cvt-automatic/.
I like the SW4200 over the Craftsman, Troy-Bilt and Cub Cadet 42 inch Steering wheel ZTR’s. The main reason I don’t like them is the tractor wheelbase is wider than the deck! You have to run over uncut grass when you are mowing!
Mike E
Hi Paul,
Thanks for the insight. A resin case makes more sense. Not sure why the dealer is not well informed. One last question. I also like the 46″ Craftsman 20442 (~$2200). With it’s tight turn steering, how does it compare to the Toro SW4200 ($2900) or SW5000 ($3100).
Thanks again,
Paul
Hi Mike, The Craftsman is just about as agile as a zero-turn mower. For most people it’s the right answer. Consumer Reports compared it to the Toro Steering wheel ZTR’s and they stated it bagged, side discharged and mulched better. I feel that even though the Toro units may not cut as perfectly they are built stronger and will last.
You can also attach a snow blade to the Craftsman.
Arnold Goodman
hello Paul. I have written to U in the past after buying a 2011 Craftsman GT 600 2654 Garden tractor. I always have steering issues, Replace steering post and steering plate. I have nearly500 hours now on machine. I also own a JD X300 2006 never hand a steering issue but transmission issues with the K46. I mow about 5 arces mostly to all flat in Belliare MI. The land including my Lawn area is not smooth, with a drainage ditch and some time wet land. I mow our small orchard also fruit tree,s and such. I notice this is where the Steering issue seems to show up.
Now for some reason I am looking at a ZTR maybe 50 inch. I see from reading, U seem to have EZ 2200 issues not strong enough I could spend maybe $3,800. happier with $3,000. So question is does ZTR solve some steering issues, should I get the stronger transmission/ And I see 2 main builders Hasqvarna and MTD Had not heard good news or any news about the MTD models Your thoughts would really be appreciated thank Arnold Goodman If I buy from Home Depot I will go though you Website
Paul
Hi Arnold, If your ground is rough buying a $4000 ZTR will not do a lot of good. It may hold up better but it will ride rougher than any tractor.
Before you spend more time looking at ZTR’s please take a look at the Craftsman Pro. These have a lot stronger front axle and steering than your GT6000.
The model 20445 is a good system and there is one with power steering you you want the best.
Craftsman Pro Series 54″ 26 HP V-Twin Kohler Garden Tractor with Turn Tight® Extreme
Craftsman Pro Series 54″ 26 HP V-Twin Kohler Power Steering Garden Tractor with Turn Tight® Extreme
Pop
I mow 1-2 acres once a week. Have an LX-277JD that the deck is shot and the plastic hood has evaporated. Looking at a Husqvarna MZ52LE with a Kawasaki FR691v engine. Will it last?
Paul
Hi Pop, Your all-wheel steer Deere is a little better unit when it was new.
The Husqvarna has a good engine, a solid deck and a good transmission. With the normal maintenance I could get 15 years or more.
Tom
Paul,
I have about 2 1/2 acres of sloped, northeast Pennsylvania land to mow. I only have a few obstacles but have a rather steep embankment out front – maybe a little less than 15 degrees. Right now I’m using a 2003 Husqvarna YTH1342 with a 13 hp Kawasaki engine that I brought with me from our previous home (we had less than 1/2 acre, flat). I know the Husqvarna is not enough mower but planned originally to run it until death and lately I’ve been a little scared it will be me dying before the mower. So I am going to upgrade and would like your advice.
I am considering a Deere x380 or x320, or a Kubota GR2020, or another Husqvarna because I have dealers for all three nearby. The Kubota is new old stock (2011, believe it or not) and the dealer wants $6700.00 for it. The Deeres are basically list, and I have not gone to the Husqvarna dealer yet but will be looking at a GT or YT with diff lock.
Do you have an opinion you can offer Sir? And thank you for a great site. You helped me out with a snowblower a couple years ago and I appreciate it every time I back it out of the garage.
Mick
Who makes the toro 452cc motor? I’m looking at buying a mower with one and wanted to know more information on them.
Paul
Hi Mick, The Toro engine is made for Toro by one of the largest engine manufactures in the world. Loncin is the manufacture
OBX-Dave
Paul, thanks for a great and informative homeowner site. In addition to your advice I have read a ton of owner reviews. The ones I valued the most were the longer term reviews. I live in a older canal style boating community and have 7 flattish lawns that I have been cutting for two years with a Toro push. These are all connected adjacent neighbors (mostly long distance vacation home owners) so no trailing/driving required to cut these lawns, and they only add up to about 1.5 acres total.
Decided it was time for a zero turn to ease the burden on my aging body. Wanted nothing wider than a 42″, but also wanted a fabricated deck (sand is our biggest issue) and servicable hydro’s (ZT-2800’s). Anyway, found a decent deal on a “closeout” Ariens Zoom XL 42, since they are being replaced by the Ikon XL. Has the 20hp Kohler 7000. Total cost delivered to my doorstep was $3,185. I have a local Toro dealer/shop that is also an Ariens service center, and he is happy to do any service/warranty work if needed (though I am sure I’ll be lower in the pecking order to his commercial accounts and in-store buyers).
With all the sand, I go though blades on my push mower pretty quickly, even with frequent sharpening, so I expect a similar condition with the ZTR, maybe even more so with the higher tip speeds. They say lower lift blades last longer in sandy areas. Would you agree?
Paul
HI OBX-Dave, I don’t know if Ariens makes a specific mulching blade. Mulching blades have less lift so they won’t pick up as much sand.
A couple of things that help. First, mow as high as you can stand the grass. It actually doesn’t grow any faster when you cut it at 4 inches compared to 2. You can also mow when it’s damp and the blades won’t suck up as much sand.
Second, When you sharpen the blades don’t put as sharp of an angle on the edge. Say the blades come with a 30 degree angle, when you sharpen them change the angle to 45 degrees.
OBX-Dave
Thanks Paul. I’ll give them a try
John S.
Paul, I’m looking to replace my old cub 1720 this Summer and have been trying to decide between a Husqvarna YTA24V48 24-HP V-Twin Automatic with the CVT trans which really is a big plus in my book . Only thing is I never got to look under it to see if this mower has the plastic trans/ diff housing which really scares me because we put ours to work and use it for more than intended purposes. The older mowers never had problems with this of course. The other one I am considering is one of the Craftsman pro series with the tuff torq hydro trans that looks like a beast. How is it for working heavy loads and longevity? I’m looking in the 1700. to 2K range.
Thanks John
Paul
Hi John, all CVT transmissions have the poly case. It is a lot more resilient than the aluminum ones. The rest of the lawn tractors in your price range have the aluminum case K46 transmission or smaller. The K46 will handle a 42 or 46 inch deck, flat ground and short bursts of overworking.
Heavier duty transmissions come in tractor starting at $2600 and higher. The Craftsman 20408 Garden Tractor, Cub Cadet XT1 GT and XT2 GT. Husqvarna also make a few in the $2800 plus range that have the stronger transmissions.
John S
Thanks Paul, That gives me some more options and helps me a lot.
Bob marrs
I’ve read a lot of reviews of Honda And Snapper push lawn mowers and there not good for brand new. I’m looking for a new mower but which one? I ask your advice .
Thank you.
Paul
Hi Bob, I don’t review push mowers here. I suggest Consumer Reports first. Then read the reviews at Sears.com, homedepot.com and other retailers you may like to shop at. I will tell you that a good push mower is now $300 and up.
Bob E
Paul,
Just found your site, it is very helpful. Thanks for your time. My head is spinning from all f the choices. I’m looking at a riding mower / tractor with a bagger with a budget of $2000-$3000. I cut up to 1 acre, but seems like I mulch and bag leaves in the fall more than I cut grass! I currently have a 42″ Troy Built purchased 15+ years ago. It’s still going strong but looking to upgrade. I am looking for some combo of good ride, turning ease / radius, and mulching / good cut. Speed would be nice also. Also, I am curious as to how well a small snow plow works on the front of a garden tractor as down the road the hand snow blower I use now might be harder to do. Should anything made by MTD scare me? Thanks so much for your help…
Paul
Hi Bob, No. MTD has really upped their game in the last 4 years. Especially the Craftsman Pro and Cub Cadet.
The Craftsman Pro Series 46″ 24 HP V-Twin Kohler Riding Mower with Turn Tight® Extreme Model 20442 has been getting rave reviews by every new owner and Consumer Reports states it mulches, side discharges and bags as well as a mower costing $1500 more.
It will handle a snow plow and here is the bagger and mulch kit for it.
Craftsman Lawn Tractor Snow Blade 14″ High
Craftsman 42–46 In. Cut 2-Bin Bagger
Craftsman 46″ Mulch Kit
Jeremy
Hi Paul,
Looking to purchase my first riding mower – budget is around $1750 range. I am not sure of the acreage of my yard, but it’s fairly open and flat – typically takes 1.5 – 2 hours with a self-propelled push mower without bagging. I won’t use the mower for anything other than cutting grass and bagging leaves in the fall.
2 that I found that were in stock and closeby were the Craftsman 46″ deck, 19 HP, model 20374 for about $1299 and the Husqvarna YTA 22V46 for $1699. If the HP and deck are the same, then what exactly would I paying for with the Husqvarna? Is it just improved quality / reliability? I don’t need a lot of bells and whistles, but I also don’t want to buy something cheap. I’ve had 2 push/self-propelled mowers die on me in the last 5-6 years after owning the one before that for about 15 years, so I’m leaning toward paying for the increased quality if it’s worthwhile.
Paul
Hi Jeremy, The Craftsman 20374 is a lawn tractor. The Husqvarna is a yard tractor. Please read this article for the difference http://todaysmower.com/the-best-lawn-yard-garden-tractor-buyers-guide/
FD
What is your opinion on the Husqvarna YT46LS?1
Paul
@FD, It has the locking diff so if you have hills to go up and down that’s a plus. Consumer Reports gives it a great rating for mowing but I can’t quite figure that out because the same deck/frame is rated much lower on 4 other tractors they test. I do know that 46 inch deck bags well. I’d buy one for my 1 acre yard.
John Zakrzewski
I’m looking to buy my first riding lawn mower. I’m looking for a 42″. I’ve read the reviews of mostly all but I’m having a hard time picking one. I have $1500 to spend.
Paul
Hi John, What else do you want to do. Bag leaves? Mulch? pull a yard cart? Do you have lots of tress and landscaping to go around? What type of grass are you mowing? Please leave your city/state and that helps with the type of grass.
At $1500 your choices are limited. Bring that amount up to $1800 and you have a lot more choices.
Doc
John,
Like Paul says you are limited at that cost
We purchased an Ariens and it has been one problem after the other
Have not found anything in that price range that seems to be much better
If you are only using it once month and an acre or less and no rocks or roots to hit, then you may get away with a 1500.00 mower. If any bigger I would just save up and buy something that Paul would suggest in a higher price range
It is bad enough spending that amount of money and then to have it constantly in the shop or you working in it is really irritating
We have about a 1/2 acre pretty smooth and is a mix of bermuda and st augustine .Our mower is two years old and already spent 200 on trying to repair the transmission shift which breaks easily. Plus buying a steering wheel, a seat, and the safety switches already for it
We are south of Dallas Texas called Mt Peak (small community)
John Zakrzewski
Yes to mulching, 3 tress and maybe pull a cart. I have a slight incline in front and on the side and will me mowing about 10000 sq ft of lawn. Landscaping around the house not much in the yard and will be mowing Bermuda grass in Prattville Alabama. I can go up to $1800.
Dave Sullivan
I’m in the market for a decent Garden Tractor in the $2500 price range. My biggest concern is the last 3 seasons I’ve been pulling around a DR Leaf Vac that uses a fixed mount hitch with caster wheels on the trailer. Because it’s a fixed mount, the rear of the DR swings the opposite direction of the mower’s turn (turn the mower left and the DR swings out to the right behind you).
I had the DR attached to a 10 year old MTD/Yard Machines Johnny Homeowner lawn tractor. As expected, the transaxle has just about given up which is why I was looking at a more robust Garden Tractor. I am still concerned about the hitch system as even the garden tractors seem to use a stamped steel backing plate that the DR’s hitch bracket simply bolts up flat to. Swinging around a fully loaded mulch box 6′ behind the mower resulted in the ‘ol MTD’s back plate to break twice. I just welded/reinforced it so I could keep mowing. The trans is the death blow though.
Are there any garden tractors with a heavy enough back plate (or some sort of heavy duty frame mounted adapter) to handle this setup or should I go with plan B and convert the DR to a traditional ball hitch setup? I suspect what I experienced is what lead DR to go back to the traditional hitch setup on their newer models. Not giving up on the DR, I NEED it with 32 oak trees in my yard. I even managed to re-power it with an el cheap-o Harbor Freight 8hp engine for $220! (You’ll need a welder, but yes, it can be done even though DR says it can’t and the B&S engine custom built for DR is no longer available).
I’ve been looking at the Craftsman Pro series and the Huskys with 46″ decks.
Thanks for any advice you may have.
Paul
Hi Dave, I did a little research and I see that no one is currently offering a hard mount leaf vac. Both DR and PECO have dropped them from their lineups. I have a feeling that they were having the same problems as you. Twisting the tractor frame, hitting stuff, and not being able to steer the tractor because of the weight on the rear. So you may want to look into mounting your vac on a trailer.
To answer your question Husqvarna built Garden Tractors with the sloping rear frame are built stronger than the lawn tractors. This includes the Husqvarna GT 48, 52, 54 inch and Craftsman red GT 54 inch tractors. Simplicity’s Conquest and Prestige lines also have thicker rear ends.
Cub Cadet/Craftsman Pro/Troy-Bilt do not have a separate frame for the GT series. The XT1 and XT2 series LT, LX and GT tractors use the same frame throughout the entire line.
But I don’t know about the XT3 Cub Cadet line. That is still an inline-drive shaft tractor so that may be one of the toughest for the money.
Matt
Actually, John Deere makes a setup like this. It’s expensive though, about 2k just for the collection system. Google John Deere MC519
Joe
I was looking for a new White Outdoors Tractor to replace my worn out 1999 38 inch cut. What happened to them? They are no more I found out. Do you know of another 38 inch cut tractor brand. Thanks.
Paul
Hi Joe, White has been owned or made by MTD for a long time and now that Oliver/White farm tractors are gone from most people’s memories the name just doesn’t carry much weight anymore. If you want something comparable I suggest looking at the new Cub Cadet tractors. Unfortunately, no one makes a 38 inch anymore. The smallest sized tractor is 42 inch.
James
Hi Paul,
Still shopping for zero turn I have to commit by this Friday, I was all fired up to buy the 48″ craftsman pro zt basically because of the economical price and ease of buying. However I’ve been talking to a local Snapper dealer who has a 400Z priced slightly higher then the Craftsman 48″ pro($3899.99). So I was down to choosing between the the two but today I stopped by the local Toro dealer and they have a MX5050 with the Toro 24.5 engine fabricated deck and it is surprisingly priced at $3200, I have compared the specification of the Toro and the Snapper 400Z and they are very comparable so it real get down to reliability. What are your thoughts between these two machines? The Craftsman is still attractive especially because its delivered to your house and the service is down at your house, this carries weight with me.
Paul
Hi James, The Toro MX5050 has a much better reputation than the Snapper’s. In fact the Snapper is very “gimicky” with their suspension and we don’t expect it to last for you. OK, it will last until the warranty expires.
If you spent an hour on each machine and looked at the cut, etc. Then had your favorite mechanic take a look at both machines the Toro is the clear winner.
Yes, The Craftsman is a good machine. It cuts well and that mower has a great reputation. I would have a tough choice deciding between it and the Toro.
Trent
Can you please give me your thoughts concerning Snapper & Simplicity zero turns? I see very little mention regarding the 400Z & 360Z mowers, other than on the manufacture’s site. Is there a reason for this? To me, they look pretty good. I live in Iowa and have 1 acre with some minimal sloping. I have a local dealer offering me a new 2015 400Z 48″ w/B&S engine for $3400 w/rebate. Please share your thoughts on the quality, reliability, cut quality and reputation, if you will. Also, I am interested in your recommendation as well. I have to be at 48″ cut max and $3500ish, or less. Thank you.
Paul
Hi Trent, If you have a good dealer and the price is right the cut quality is OK, reputation is OK and warranty is better than OK.
There are over 40 different ZTR’s that fall into the same category as the Snapper/Simplicity/Ferris. Average to OK mowers, Average to OK engines, Average to OK cutting and bagging. The price is inline with all the other brands. I don’t talk to much about them because the dealer network is spotty in many areas of the country, the mowers are just average and they really have no Internet/social media presence. Snapper/Simplicity/Ferris is owned by Briggs & Stratton. That’s why they have the better Briggs & Stratton engines on them. The three brands really don’t have a large market share so we were not even sure if B&S would keep producing them 5 years ago.
But Briggs has put a lot of engineering into the lines in the last 3 years. They consolidated the assembly so it looks like they can actually make a profit selling the ZTR’s.
Kathryn Jenkel
We are looking for a reliable riding lawn mower. The mower needs to be easy to maintain plus the blades need to be easy to sharpen. We currently have a 42 inch cut mower with 19 hp that needs replaced because it is old and the work it needs greatly exceeds the value. Our home with detached garage sits on 1 acre. We have the house, garage, trees, bushes and flower beds to mow around. Our property has a slight slope. There are few tree roots but basically smooth mowing. We have a big box store 5 miles from our home that we can get basic parts for their lawn mowers: Troy-bilt, Husqvarna and John Deere. Then other big box stores that are 20 miles away sell: Cub Cadet, Poulan and Craftsman. It seems the same brands offer mowers with Kohler or Briggs Stratten engines? When I research what MTD line makes, it seems that they make most mowers? So are all riding mowers made by MTD with just different brand names? We would like to spend less than $2000 and get a riding lawn mower that offers many, many years of worry free mowing. What models would you recommend as good options to look at further? Also what are your thoughts on extended warranties? Thank you for your assistance! Carbondale, Illinois
John Nguyen
Which riding mower is the best? I just went to Home Depot to look for a riding mower and I found out that Toro sw5000 recondition for $2400 original price is $3199. if I want to purchase this the manager will give more discount. I also look for John Deer zero turn 42 inches which cost almost $4000 plus tax . I went to Kubota dealer. The salesman told me that 42 inch zero turn will cost around $4000 or up with 19 hp and up. Will you please give me advice which riding mower is the best and the quality. I really do not want the engine make in china. Who makes toro sw 5000 24.5hp 50 inch riding mower. I have less than half an acre of land that I will cut every two weeks and 10 acre of lands which used to be hay but I only need to cut 1/2 acre every month. My land is flat. I live in Houston, Texas
Wendy
Hi Paul ,
I mow about 4 acres with at least 2 1/2 acres of it being my front yard which is on a hill. Four years ago i bought a John Deere after the dealer looked at my yard and recommended a model that would handle the slope. The transmission could not handle the job and I am now looking for a mower that is reliable. Can you suggest a few brands and models that would handle this type of yard? Some say the cub cadet XT 2 or the Gforce zero turn with the steering wheel. Thoughts? Any other suggestions? Thank you.
James
Can you provide me with your review of the Craftsman PRO ZT 48″ cut? I mow about 3 acres once a week was getting ready to by a snapper 400Z, but I was at sears today and they have the 48″ Pro marked down pretty good was going to take advantage of the savings. About 4 years ago I purchased a Cub Cadet traditional lawn tractor from one of the home improvement stores and was never happy with the performance many deck problem, gas draining into the crank case and eventually 1 week ago pretty sure engine rod broke(speculation) For sure I’m finish with this type of mower and will upgrade.
Your thoughts are appreciated.
Paul
Hi James, You are exactly correct on the 2010ish Cub Cadets. They had more problems with belts coming off, deck mounts wearing out, front steering digging in, etc. It was so bad that Consumer Reports listed the entire brand as a don’t buy. MTD went all out and completely designed a new tractor that came out last year. They got it right this time.
Now the Pro 48 inch is made by MTD but it based on one the the better Cub Cadet ztr’s, the Z-Force. Heavy frames, heavy transmissions, heavy decks. I wrote a review last year and you can read it here:
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James
Thanks Paul for the feedback, I pretty sure I will take advantage of the Craftsman sale, seems to be a decent mower and easy to purchase as I can do it from the key board and get delivered right to my house and as you stated to someone else the service tech will come to my house if needed.
Fred
Opinion between an Exmark Quest S series 50 in. deck and John Deere Z535M 48 in. deck? Both dealers in Birmingham are close by. Have just under an acre with some slopes and several trees in back. Currently using a push mower, so both would be better. Looking for good quality that will last me for years. The JD has a B&S engine while the Ex puts their sticker on some other engine. Not sure how the hydros compare. The mulch option seems easier on the JD. The Ex has a foot pedal for lifting the deck, but I didn’t see one on the JD.
I tested a 42 in. Ex and it seemed to handle a little jerky with the steering (different hydros than the 50 in.). Haven’t driven the JD yet, but the dealer said the handles were adjustable. I would hope the handling would be a little smoother.
Was thinking of looking at a Kubota Kommander as well.
Paul
Hi Fred, I know the Quest. ExMark is known for having the best cutting decks and even this heavy-duty homeowner model carries a good cutting deck. It has strong transmissions that will handle slopes well.
I don’t know enough about the John Deere to give an opinion. It uses a slightly smaller transmissions. Has a stamped deck. ExMark has good fabricated deck that works well. Again this year Deere has a new deck on this mower.
The ExMark’s handles are adjustable up and down and fore and aft.
Yes, John Deere uses a John Deere engine and that one is made by Briggs. ExMark/Toro uses their own engine. It is proving to be one of the best engines on the market.
Mike
Paul,
Have about 3 acres. Some areas have a slope of say ten to twenty degrees. From what I have read Cub drives, especially the left, seemed to start having problems around 250 hours. The Hydrogear drive in the Cub was not the top of the line. I believe its a 2100 series and it’s sealed so no checking of oil. (At least that’s what the book says) The Zero Turn I have is a 2006 so I’m sure it has seen 250 hours. Don’t do commercial mowing nor do I pull anything on a regular basis. Thanks…Mike
Paul
Hi Mike, EZT-2100 don’t do well on slopes. Let me put the hours in terms though. All of these ZTR’s are designed for certian types of work. The $10,000 and up machines are designed to run 40-60 hours a week for years. A $7000 machine is designed to mow 10-15 hours a week and last years. A $3000 machine is designed to last years on a residential yard.
So, if I take a typical residential yard and size a 54 inch ZTR. That yard would be 2 to 3 acres and be flat or gently sloping. It would take about an hour to mow. Most of us mow 25-30 times a year. So, that Cub you are having problems with should easily last 10 years.
So the hydro-gear is a good transmission. When you use it for what it was designed to do it will last. If you wore this one out too soon, I suggest going to a heavy-duty homeowner ZT-2800 trans ($4000-5000) of even an entry level commercial ZTR. ZT-3400 trans ($6000-7000)
If you have slopes, if you have more land to mow, if you mow more often or also mow your neighbor’s lawns the mower won’t last as long so then you have to upgrade and go to a heavier-duty ZTR.
Mike
Paul,
Since you were talking about zero turns… I’m looking to replace my Cub RZT if my project of
working on thee hydrodrives doesn’t work out. .
The two I’m considering are the John Deer Z535M or the Exmark Quest S Series with 50″ cut.
Any opinions?
Thanks, Michael
Paul
Hi MIke, It really depends on what you are mowing. Did your drives give out on the Cub Cadet because of hills, mowing commercially, pulling stuff, or trying to maintain them by checking the oil? I can’t really give an opinion if I don’t know where you live so I know what grass type you have, the size of your lawn and if it has slopes etc.
BUTCH GUEVARA
MY NEW HOME HAS 2.7 ACRES OF FLAT LAND WITH LOTS OF TREES,I AM CONSIDERING ZERO TURN MOWER SUCH AS THE TORO TIMECUTTER MX5050 AND THE HUSTLER SD 54 INCH.WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS OR RESERVATIONS DO YOU HAVE ON THESE? ANY OTHER MODELS? THANKS
Paul
Hi Butch, I have no reservations with either mower. They are both solid, rugged, homeowner ZTR’s that will last you many years. I do suggest that you buy from the dealer you like the best.
Butch G
Thank you,your blog is very informative and appreciated.
Matt J
Hey Paul,
I am looking to purchase a new mower I’ve been looking at the Cub Cadet xt1 lt46, a husqvarna yth22v46, the craftsman 20379, and last a John Deere D-125 which would you recommend? My lawn is fairly flat a couple of holes where the ground settled a big and roughly 2- 2.5 acres. This would replace my older JD LT155 with the Freedom Deck. Also do you recommend bagging vs discharging I’ve heard mixed reviews.
Matt J
Ok now I’m really looking at the Cub Cadet XT1 LT46 and the Craftsman 20442 now would you say the $2199 Craftsman is really worth the extra money over the $1699 Cub Cadet?
Thanks again
Paul
Hi Matt, I’m not going to give an opinion because I’m just here to help you find the best mower for you. The Craftsman has a bigger V-Twin engine and better steering. It also has 24/7 parts availability and the service tech will come right to your home. If any of that is important to you than the Craftsman is a good choice for you.
Sam McGarrity
thanks Paul your site is a great service to the home owner–Sam
Paul
Hi Sam, You are very welcome.
Sam McGarrity
Paul how do you feel about john deere D130 from the stand point of maintenance and durability–have one acre yard and level–will use mower for mowing, aeration, dethatching, and trailer other yard work
Hixson, tn
thanks
Paul
Hi Sam, the D125 at Home Depot and the D130 at Lowes are the same lawn tractor. I have not verified it yet but I think the deck is also on the S240. For your property is sounds like a very good choice. Perform the normal maintenance (oil, filters, sharpen the blades) and it will last. It cuts well and mulches well. Consumer Reports states it doesn’t bag grass clippings as well as the X304 and X310 but it bags leaves and dry grass well. If you are going to buy it from the big box store I suggest that you stop by your local John Deere Dealer first. He may give you the same price, plus set it up, adjust and level the deck and make sure it is ready to mow lawn.
John
what are your thoughts on L.P. Gas powered products? What are the pro’s & con’s?
Paul
Hi John, LP is cleaner and cheaper for the fuel itself. Engines last forever because it’s so clean burning. You never have to worry about bad fuel or additives messing up your fuel systems. A large commercial mowing company can save quite a bit in fuel costs and it is worth switching over a fleet of mowers.
It’s very expensive to install so it is only offered on the larger, commercial machines. There was a rebate available from PERC last year but I think it’s no longer available. If you are interested please check with a large commercial dealer on the availability for the models they sell.
The Propane Education Research Council is a primary site to learn more.
Herb
Hi Paul,
Thanks for the value of the Cub Cadet XT2 vs XT1.
I mow about 1 1/2 acres, it’s somewhat rough and mostly flat. With that in mind, what are your thoughts about a Cub Cadet vs John Deere S240? In my area in North East IN we simplicity and Toro are other options.
Paul
Hi Herb, I have not had a chance to really look and the S240. My local dealer did not have one last year to try. I understand the S240 is similar to the D100 series with a “better” engine and a few other creature features. Consumer Reports stated it cut about the same as the 42 inch Cub Cadet.
I think I would suggest the 46 inch Cub Cadet/Craftsman Pro series stamped deck as a really good choice. If you wanted a stronger deck then look at the Cub Cadet with the 46 inch fabricated deck. These mowers cut well and the extra 2 inch over hang will let you trim easier.
Herb
Thank you.
I’ve been looking at the JD X310 with power steering and hydraulic lift but wish it came with a 46 inch deck. Do you think it’s worth the extra money? It’s almost $4,000.
Paul
Hi Herb, I just got this review in this morning. I think it answers your question as well as I could. Here is a link to the tractor he bought: Craftsman Pro Series 46″ 24 HP V-Twin Kohler Power Steering Riding Mower with Turn Tight® Extreme.
I finally got a chance to cut my 3/4 acre lawn with my 46″ Craftsman Pro Series 24 HP V-Twin Kohler 46” Yard Tractor with 5 inch Turn Tight with Electric Power Steering. It is pretty much how you described in your reviews – what a great machine and great cut! The 5 inch tight turn steering works great and is a really solid set up – you just need to take the tight turns slower or you risk plowing. And you are correct about the stiffer frame on this model, you can feel the bumps in your lawn, although for me not a big deal as my lawn is fairly level and flat. The power steering worked great as well, really notice it more at the slower speeds. Was wondering if you have any idea how long MTD has been using the electric power steering and any feedback as to how they are holding up as compared to hydraulic? The Kohler V- twin is powerful and a smooth runner – especially compared to my older 19 HP Kohler Courage single cylinder, and the V-twin is quieter as well. All said this is a great mower – And I think I got a good deal as well. Got the mower, bagger, and mulch kit delivered, and fully assembled (with no crating to dispose of) for $2475 (before tax) during the promotion Sears ran in March, and used the Sears points to get a spare deck belt, oil and air filter. I think a comparable John Deere X300 series would start in the$ 3400 range (without power steering and a smaller 42 inch deck). All said I couldn’t be happier and highly recommend this mower.
john o kennedy
Paul,
Where is Troy Built made.
How do you rate Troy-Bilt Riding Mower Model TB2246 46?
Thanks in advance
Paul
Hi John, They are made in Ohio or Georgia. That’s Georgia in the United States – not Russia.
The TB2246 is the Troy-bilt version of the Cub Cadet XT1 LT46. It has a Briggs engine. I like the way it cuts. It will make a great lawn tractor for up to 2 acres. Be sure you understand how you get service, parts and repair on your Troy-Bilt before you buy.
ron kostiuk
I replaced my 21 yr old craftsman lawn mower with a new one last yr. I was wondering if the mdl# are different here than in the states the mdl # is c459.60411 its red and has a 42″ deck , the engine # is 310000 b.s It sounds a lot like the one you have talked about with the 17.5 hp.
The old one with the 12.5 still cuts but pushes oil a little out the bottom. How long do you think the new one will last. I have about 4 a to cut.
Paul
Hi Ron, Sears Canada is a separate company from Sears Holdings. They buy their own products and sometimes don’t even use the same manufactures. Personally, I feel the quality is still good so I would expect it to last.
Mike
Good Article. I noticed you had Gravely as no longer made.? I thought they were still and production and a good brand. I was actually thinking about getting one to replace older cub that has drive issues. I see quite a few being used for commercial cutting. Any insights?
Robert
Hi Paul.
What’s up with Ariens? No tractors listed on their site and everything at Home Depot is listed discontinued.
Paul
Hi Robert, Those tractors were made for Ariens by Husqvarna. They were essentially Poulan Pro’s. The tractor market has gotten a lot smaller now that everyone wants a zero-turn. They were only sold at Home Depot and available through the Ariens dealers. Home Depot tested the Poulan Pro brand last year and it seemed to do well.
Ariens has the new IKON zero-turn and it’s a big hit. You can check it out here: Ariens IKON
Robert
Thanks Paul.
As far as zero turns, is there anything that you feel could stand up to use on a slop of say 15-20 degrees? I wouldn’t want to burn up a transmission selecting something not built heavy enough. If it helps, I really like the zeros with the steering wheels.
Paul
Hi Robert, From a liability standpoint I can’t tell you that specific model can work better than what the manufactures state. But, ZTR’s with ZT2800-ZT3100 transmissions can handle slopes without the trans burning up. I would suggest a mower with a larger deck because they usually have a wide stance for the wheels. 50 to 60 inch decks and mid-priced units. Toro SWX and Cub Cadet Z-Force S/SX models are the place to start.
Michael
Angola, IN
Hi Paul,
Thank you for your insight on the mowers. I think we’ll be going with the John Deere S240. It has many upgrades that are usually only found on their 300 series, yet is still priced competitively. Thanks again for your help!
Michael
Location: Angola, Indiana
Hi Paul,
I just discovered your web page here and I’ve greatly enjoyed reading your comments regarding lawn/garden tractors.
I have a question for you: My wife and I are planning to purchase a new rider mower in the near future for our new home and we need some advice. (Long story short, we just sold our old home last week, and with it, our 54″ cut 26 HP Kohler Craftsman rider).
We spoke to our local John Deere dealer yesterday about purchasing a smaller lawn tractor, something with a 42″ deck or less. (We currently own about a half acre lake lot that is perfectly flat). The salesman was very knowledgeable and educated us about the various features of the JD 125 and JD 130 models, which he said we’re they’re best-selling models.
I like that JD’s are still made in the US. Also, I assume that the heftier price tag on the JD (compared to comparable 42″ cut mowers of an alternate brand, such as Craftsman) is worth it because it’s a JD. Am I correct in thinking this?
I’m also looking at the Simplicity Regent in 42″ cut, but it appears to be about $200 more than the JD 125. I’m not sure why, because they both have the same exact B&S 22 HP engine.
Bottom line, if you were in my shoes, what brand would you recommend in terms of being the best quality for the money?
P.S. What would you think if I were to look for an older JD rider that was in good shape vs. buying a new JD? Will the quality of the new JD be “as good” as the old style?
Thank you for your time and your thoughts,
Michael
Paul Sikkema
Hi Michael, Just so you know – all lawn and garden tractors are made in the U.S. There are a few MTD models in the $1200 range that use Chinese engines but the tractors themselves are built here.
Simplicity is over priced, especially in the Regent. Other than the engine I can’t see why that tractor should cost more than $1200.
The JD D125 and D130 are priced competitively at $1799. The comparable Craftsman is the 20390 at $1700. Yes, you get to pay a little more for green paint.
I’m surprised the JD dealer din’t show you the S240. It’s one of the better value tractors they have and everyone who has bought one this year really likes it. You can read about it here: S240
Mark
You missed the Noma brand on the “No longer made” list.
Paul Sikkema
@Mark, Thanks, I forgot they even made tractors.
ron sturm
Hi Paul:
We’re in the Gulf Islands of southern BC, along the border. We have about 2 acres to mow, with some slopes. Leaning toward your recommendations for heavy duty ZTR 42 inch, but major concern for us is wife’s need to collect grass for compost. Would appreciate more info on machines that are able to collect grass easily and efficiently. Saw somewhere your comment about Walker hopper mowers and was interested, but we no longer have a dealer close by. Is it worth the effort to seek out a Walker (in other words, are they far and away the best choice?) or can you recommend any other machines that can have grass collecting equipment added without making them too cumbersome? Thanks.
Paul Sikkema
Hi Ron, Yes, they are the best – period.
Walker does things differently. I suggest you go to Walkermowers.com and use the contact page to discuss dealer options.
I did a quick dealer locator on their page and got the following 3 places near Victoria. (am I close?)
Western One Rentals 2200A Keating X Road, Victoria, BC V8M 2A6 (250)652-5550 10
Port Angeles Power Equipment 2624 E Highway 101, Port Angeles , WA 98362 360-452-4652 23
Fraser Valley Equipment 13399 – 72 Ave, Surrey, BC V3W 2N5 1-604-590-1433 55
ExMark has the Navigator but the Walker has so many more options for you to choose from.
Larry Caponigro
Hi Paul,
I could really use your help. I need to buy my daughter a sit down lawn mower for Columbia, MO. The house is on a 1/2 acre hill. My head is spinning between what the dealers tell you, and the reviews I read. My gut is telling me a used John Deere, Kubota is to expensive (new or used) and I had a MTD Yard Bud in the past which was junk. I have been told the Husqvarna and the new Cub Cadets are no longer quality. A dealer has a close out on a Dixon sit (non-ZTR) with the 3 year warranty. Any suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks
Larry
Paul Sikkema
Hi Larry, The “new ones are no longer quality” is a relative term. I’m glad I can mow a 2 acre lawn with todays mowers in an hour when it used to take all day with the old Cub Cadet’s and 110 Deeres. Besides at least the new one swill turn in less than a 1/2 acre and turn just as sharp both ways!
Anyway, The Dixon is a Husqvarna. I like the 3 year warranty and you can’t really go wrong with it. They are as heavy of a tractor you will find.
Todd
Saratoga Springs, New York
I have less than an acre of flat lawn to mow and have done so for over 15 years with a Craftsman 42″ lawn tractor with a 15.5 Kohler engine. In the fall the tractor is used to pull a Cyclone Rake which gets loaded down with oak leaves and pine needles. It’s time for a new dependable, well built model that would break the bank. I was set to purchase a Cub Cadet XT1 LT46 from a local dealer but I’m not sure this is the best for my situation. Do you have any recommendations/suggestions so I can get the best product for the money?
Paul Sikkema
Hi Todd, I am going to assume you had the 6-speed geared transmission in your old Craftsman. Even though your lawn is flat I am a little nervous about recommending a 46 inch XT1, XT2 (or Craftsman Pro) because you pull the Cyclone Rake. The K46 transmission in those mowers are lawn tractor transmissions and designed for mowing – not pulling heavy loads.
If you are only catching leaves you will be all right. If you also use it for grass clippings I highly suggest you keep the loads under 500 lbs including the Cyclone.
A lawn tractor with a stronger transmission is the Craftsman 20391. You can read my review here: 20391 Review
Todd
Saratoga Springs, New York
Thanks for the quick reply. Yes, my old Craftsman has the 6-speed geared transmission. I am not sure of the exact weight but I can tell you the Cyclone Rake has been so weighted down that it lifted the Craftsman’s frontend slightly. I was hoping not to exceed a 46″ deck because of some tight openings I drive through (shed door & fence gate) and many obstacles (trees, pool, shed, play-set, garden, planters) I have to maneuver. Would you have a runner-up option?
My original comment should have read “that would NOT break the bank” and your choice does fit in that category.
Obviously you know a lot more about lawn tractors than I do. I greatly appreciate your time in replying. Thank you again.
Also, in your opinion, is a fabricated deck worth the extra cost?
Paul Sikkema
Ok Todd, Is $6000 too much? 🙂
There are a few other alternatives. The Craftsman 22HP 42” Turn Tight® Fast Riding Mower – Non-CA
is a 42 inch V-Twin and is comparable to the Cub Cadet XT1 LY46 except it has a stronger CVT foot control transmission and the 6 inch Turn-Tight steering. One added feature is it will buzz around your yard at 7.5 mph! This deck has the same discharge opening as your old tractor.
Two other cheaper alternatives. First the Craftsman 25081. About $1500 19HP 42 in. Turn Tight® Automatic Riding Mower
. Again this one has the RS 800 CVT trans but it is a fender control like your old Craftsman. (by the way these transmissions can handle 800 lbs or more on the axle and not break.) 19 HP single cylinder Briggs Platinum. (this engine is rated for 25% longer life than your old 15.5) 6 inch turn-tight and the same seat you have now. This deck has the same discharge opening as your old tractor.
Finally, the 25083. About $1549. Same as the 25081 above with a 46 inch two blade deck. 19HP 46 in. Turn Tight® Automatic Riding Mower
Patrick
I have an acre and a quarter to keep mowed and I’m looking at a few different riding mowers and trying to get the best product for the money between them. The Ariens A20VA46 seems to be very close to the Husqvarna YTH22V46 (both made by Husqvarna) with the exception of the transmissions. Both have the Briggs and Stratton 22 HO V-Twin engine. The Ariens has an automatic and the Husqvarna has a hydrostatic but I don’t know the difference. The third is the Cub Cadet XT1 with the 22 HP Kohler V-Twin engine. They are all about the same price but the Ariens is about $100 cheaper. I’m guessing the difference in the transmission is why it cost less. Which mower would be the best for the money?
Paul Sikkema
Hi Patrick, It’s actually the engine.
The Ariens A20VA46 has the RS800 CVT it’s actually the strongest trans of the three but it has the Briggs Intek engine. The Intek is good for flat lawns but the owners who use it on hills don’t get the life they expect.
The Husqvarna YTH22V46 also uses the Intek engine but is has a K46 hydrostatic. Husqvarna as a brand name, the hydro and the extra 2 horses equals $200 more than the Ariens.
In the Briggs engines you want an Intek Plus, Craftsman Platinum, John Deere 100 series of Intek ELS for hills and the longest life. Craftsman advertises 25% more life compared to the Intek.
The Cub Cadet XT1 LT46 has the same K46 trans as the Husqvanra. But it has the best engine of the three. The Kohler 7000 is the same quality (some will argue better) as the Intek Plus/Craftsman Platinum.
So if you are looking at the mechanics of the lawn tractor the Cub Cadet is the best of the three for the money especially if you have hills to mow.
Herb
Is the Cub Caset XT2 worth getting over the XT1?
Paul
Hi Herb, Last year the XT2 had upgraded engine and transmission options for the extra money. This year the XT2 only has arm rests, bumper, ball bearing front wheels and different tires for the same increase in money.
Is it worth it?
95% of the lawn tractors sold do not have ball bearing front wheels so that is not worth it for most people.
Different tires doesn’t mean they are better. Now, if the different tires were puncture resistance or self-sealing then I would get excited.
If you have teenagers you have to have the bumper. It’s $50 for the XT1.
The only time you REALLY needs armrests is if you drink and drive..That way you won’t fall off the tractor when you park it in the shed. I know you don’t do that, but I’ve known a few guys who have 🙂
Kenny taylor
I’m looking at buying a new riding mower. I’ve got about 1/2 to 3/4 acres. Going to get a tractor style. I don’t like cutting grass, but don’t want to pay to get it done. What do you recommend for a dependable inexpensive mower. Was thinking the Ariens gear driven mower what do you think? Any insight would be great. Thanks I live on the Eastern shore of Virginia.
Paul Sikkema
@Kenny, I have a better solution for you than the gear drive transmission. But first, I would stay away from the Ariens/Poulan Pro/Craftsman/Husqvarna gear drive lawn tractors. They don’t have a clutch in them. When you step on the clutch pedal you just release the belt that goes between the engine and transmission. That’s fine until you go to move again. The tractors jerk and if you have it a higher gear will actually jerk the front wheels off the ground. Because of that many people hate their gear drive tractors.
The solution is one of the automatics. For only $100 more you get the General Transmissions CVT automatic and it makes a world of difference in how the mower handles. You just press on the right foot control and you go. No jerking – it’s very easy to use.
The nice thing about the Ariens is it’s made by Husqvarna so all of the Husqvarna and Craftsman Yard tractor attachments will fit. Side discharge, mulching and bagging blades. Even the 2-bin bagger all fit.
Here is the automatic. You can buy it online and pick it up at you nearest Home Depot: Ariens Lawn Mowers A19A42 42 in. 19 HP Briggs & Stratton Automatic Gas Front-Engine Riding Mower 960460061
Kathleen Quilan
Paul I clicked on your link and it brings me to Home Depot rugs…I have a 3/4 acre of lawn now. Pretty flat and I am 58 years old, not thinking about lifetime products anymore. More of the maintenance free easy to drive and mow. I think Briggs and Stratton is an excellent motor but hear bad things about Murray and Husqvarna. What do you suggest? I like easy steering as I have tendinitis in my arms.. Thanks.
Jody Rose
Who Makes the Toro Engines used on their Timecutter SS 32″ and 34″ ZTR mowers.
Levelland, TX
Paul Sikkema
@Jody, Loncin. Toro has been using Loncin engines in many of their products since 2009. Exmark is also using the engines and just put out a press release on their’s
Exmark Introduces Its Own Single- and Twin-Cylinder Engines
With an eye toward delivering a better overall customer experience in a number of product lines, Exmark has unveiled two new Exmark-branded engines. Developed specifically for Exmark zero-turn mower applications, the new single- and twin-cylinder engines offer a number of unique features designed to enhance performance, simplify maintenance and increase durability.
According to Daryn Walters, Exmark’s director of marketing, development of the new engines began more than four years ago, and prototype engines have been exhaustively tested for performance and durability on the dyno, in the laboratory and in the field.
“The Exmark engines have been refined and proven through extensive durability and field testing,” Walters says. “We also tested the engines against similar engines from other manufacturers. Multiple comparison tests were made in heavy grass using identical mowers fitted with competitive engines. In all cases, performance of the Exmark engines was equal to or better than the other engines tested.”
Both Exmark engines feature overhead valve (OHV) designs to decrease fuel consumption and emissions and reduce engine operating temperature. Additionally, the engines are tuned for quicker, stronger governor response to deliver more power precisely when it’s needed. A wide power band gives operators the confidence to tackle challenging jobs without fear of stalling the engine.
Durability-enhancing features such as cast iron cylinder liners, oversized crankshaft bearings and triple-ring pistons increase the long-term durability of both engines. Exmark is so confident in the engines that it offers a three-year warranty on both, with parts and warranty support available from more than 1,500 Exmark dealers across the nation.
Exmark also includes a QR code on each engine, which allows for scanning with a smartphone or tablet to provide the user with maintenance and service information for the engine, as well as specifications and other information.
The Exmark 708cc V-twin engine
Designed from the ground up as a zero-turn mower engine, the new Exmark 708cc V-twin engine introduces a number of new performance and serviceability enhancements to the marketplace. The innovations bolster the professional-grade performance and durability of Exmark’s small and mid-sized zero-turn riding mowers.
The innovative air intake design reduces dust and debris build-up with a constant flow of pre-screened air. The design of the air box cover and air filter virtually eliminate the possibility of an incorrectly installed filter allowing engine-killing dust and debris into the engine. Combined with a standard dual-barrel carburetor, the intake system delivers more air to the engine for increased power and fuel efficiency, and reduced operating temperature.
The Exmark 708cc V-twin engine also features a vacuum choke override for increased startability and smoother running at start-up.
A standard quick-drain system eases oil changes by offering the ability to drain oil without tools. The long drain hose eliminates the messiness traditionally associated with draining the oil from the engine, and the design dramatically reduces the time required for routine oil changes. The quarter-turn twist-lock dipstick design makes oil level checks quick and easy.
Exmark’s revamped Quest E- and S-Series machines are the first machines to be available with Exmark’s new twin-cylinder engine. The engine will be standard on Quest E-Series mowers with 42- or 54-inch cutting decks, and Quest S-Series machines with 42- or 50-inch cutting decks.
The Exmark 452cc single-cylinder engine
The new Exmark 452cc single-cylinder engine is designed to deliver exceptional performance and durability in the company’s small zero-turn mowers. Tuned for the specific requirements of Exmark machines, the new single-cylinder engine features an OHV design to increase efficiency and decrease emissions.
An optimized balance shaft design reduces engine vibration, while an automatic compression release combines with electric starting to deliver quick, easy starts.
The Exmark 452cc single-cylinder engine also introduces a number of features to ease maintenance and increase engine reliability.
Full-pressure lubrication and a standard dual-stage oil filtration system increase durability by delivering an ample supply of clean engine oil to vital engine parts. The air filter features easy, tools-free access to speed and simplify cleaning, and a quarter-turn dipstick makes it easy to check engine oil level, or add oil to the engine.
The new Exmark 452cc single-cylinder engine will first be available on 34-inch Quest S-Series machines, with additional applications expected in 2015 and beyond.
Learn more about the new Exmark single- and twin-cylinder engines at http://Exmark.com/Exmark-Advantage/Recent-Innovations/Exmark-Engines.
John
Paul, you stated that a spring would be installed to stabilize the washer and thus eliminate the grinding sound in the cvt trans. When do you think that will occur?
Williamston, NC
Paul Sikkema
@John, All transmissions installed after August 1st won’t rattle.
John Ouellette
Williamston, NC
Your excellent writing has convinced me to buy the Craftsman tractor T3000 20390. Are there any updates for the 2015 model year?
Paul Sikkema
@John, No, that tractor did very well last year. When you get it I want you to know the transmission may be noisy for the first 2 hours of use. The gear oil settles way to the bottom of the tranny if it’s not used for a couple of months. (from the time it’s made until you first use it)
After that you will like it a lot.
Laura
@ Paul where did you find the information on mutt tractor interested in learning more.
Paul Sikkema
Two of those tractors were made by someone in Boscobel, Wi. When I talked to him 10 years ago he was trying to find funding. I never did find out where his shop was located and I’ve lost track of him. It was called the Bosco Mutt.
Joseph Smith
TORO lawn tractors are awsome, I took mine through snow in the winter time and it barely got stuck, and it climed my mountain of a driveway with no tire chains. Those KOHLER COURAGE engines that the TOROs have in them are very reliable, and have plenty of power. In the winter and Fall those engines warm up quick. Only problem with most of the new lawn tractors are the transmissions are cheap quality, and dont last long enough in my opinion.
Paul Sikkema
@Joeseph, The old Toro tractors were built off the old Wheel Horse design. Today’s Toro tractors (since 2007) have and are made by MTD. The are built off the same fream as the Troy-Bilt/Cub Cadet tractors.
Randy
I recently purchased a Simplicity Broadmoor to mow about 1.25 acres of a combination of flat and hilly terrain. When the turf is dry, the mower does a great job. However, if there is moisture present, it loses traction quickly. Not sure if changing tires will help…or if there any other solutions????
Spartanburg, SC
Paul Sikkema
@Randy, Weight – it needs weight. The Broadmoor is just like all the other lawn tractors now-days. Aluminum cased transmission, stamped steel frame.
A lot of owners add wheel weights or will put fluid in the tires. Others who don’t pull anything will add a weight box to the rear (only about 50 LBS)
Carol Ann Camp
Sorry, I live close to Conway, Arkansas — about 35 miles from Little Rock.
Carol Ann Camp
I have a 10 acre field to mow. Is the Raven a good choice for fairly level ground with some small hills. The grass (hay if left to grow) is easy to mow if it is cut at least once a week. My children are afraid that there is no one in our area to service this machine. Is there a local dealer?
Paul Sikkema
@Carol, You didn’t tell me where you live. Denver Global is in the process of setting up a nationwide service network.
But, right now the best way to purchase the Raven MPV-7100 is through DRPower. Their service network is ready to serve. Here is the link to them: Raven MPV-7100
LNC
i thought Gravely was still being manufactured by Arien’s
Paul Sikkema
@LNC, You are correct. This is just a list of the lawn tractors. If you want my complete list go here please: The Complete Lawn Mower, Riding Mower, Lawn Tractor, Garden Tractor, Zero Turn Name Brands List | Who Makes What, Who Are The Major Mower Manufactures
bill
Good response, your excerpt tells the tale of the evolution of riding mower exactly as I explain it to others. I’ve needed to explain myself to friends over the years when I’ve spent a $1000 on a jd 212 or 216 from 1980, but won’t consider a big box special for that price.
I agree that people in general have changed, I feel marketing has steered many in the directions they have gone. The old saying of “just because all your friends are jumping off the golden gate should you?” comes to mind. Every one seems to “need” a large useless stretch of grass that they spend countless hours manicuring, for no real benefit, only in their mind as they “keep up with the Jones’s”.
I find myself having to do many things for others that a couple of decades ago most could accomplish themselves. If it were just because their time was precious and they paid me so they could do something meaningful, or more productive, that’d be fine. But most are going into debt to buy things of little return. Then paying me to perform necessary tasks while they either watch, or they are working their tail off doing expensive pointless cosmetic “upgrades” to the property.
Sorry for the rant, I guess my issue is with the throwaway, pursuit of diminishing returns society that is looking to be taken care of that is embodied by this topic and not your personal views.
I will agree that most lawn mowers today cut grass better and much faster than my ’66 sears suburban 12 hp…but that one has pulled a 45′ 4800# oak log, and then taken me and my 30 closest friends riding my equipment trailer with picnic tables on a joyride through the countryside. How can you put a price on those memories, I certainly can’t recall anything about my last lawnmowing adventure….
Keep up the good work!
And yes I’d love a compact 4wd tractor…out of my budget currently though
Paul Sikkema
@bill, I am from the same generation and still do everything I can using my own manual labor, but I have always had my Grandfather’s hand-me-down Super H Farmall to pull the hayrack rides and the 4H float…..
bill
I’ve read a number of your articles and all their comments. I believe you are quite knowledgeable about new products and their features, and you are quite helpful & nice to many nonmechanically inclined commentors. However I’m going to respectfully disagree with your assertions. So I hope you don’t take it personally when I express contention over your opinions you present as facts. I realize that your statements are concluded from a paradigm of these machines being grass cutters with some doubling as wheelbarrows.
In your writing you express disdain towards anything from the 50’s-80’s. Most of your hate is on their transmissions. I have yet to see a garden tractor in the past 10-20yrs that could handle the work load of a 2300 peerless for under $6000. The older models in the $2000 range could do many more tasks like tilling, plowing and cultivating soil, some even had loaders. What is regarded as a load today is 600-800lbs…older models handled 4000#+ regularly with only trouble stopping and turning down long grades. Our family’s main tractor was a ’72 jd 112, 12 hp electric lift and pto. It served til around 2004-5 snowblowing, tilling, mowing, logging, making firewood and a young boy’s atv. There were odd tasks it performed like a one bottom plow, midmount grader blade and the horizontal pto allowed running a variety of belt drive equipment like table saws.
With snowblowing several peoples property and tilling multiple gardens alone it brought probably $1000 a yr in on average for 30 yrs. On this site people seem pleased with 3 yrs of personal use mowing lawn trouble free. For your inflation sheltering great value concept to be valid the machines would need to perform the same tasks. They do not, in fact many 70’s models were 10x the machine in both capabilities and longevity. So you would need $20k to get the same jobs done.
Some of the things that gave the garden tractors of yesteryear their capability are 1/4″ thick frames, cast iron transaxles, and a 40# flywheel.
For me snowblowing is top priority. I mow perhaps twice a week at most (my lawn grows a foot tall in a week during May and June). However, living on a wind swept hill surrounded by field, snow drift removal can be daily. I also clear off a half acre of snow and mow the same amount. If grass gets tall whooptydoo…if the driveways buried I can’t get to work. Newer machines in the lower price range are too light, and can’t handle the 300#’s of weight on back I find ideal for snowblowing.
In a time when people want things compact and versatile, coupled with the rising popularity of organic gardening… for a self sustaining homestead, I am of the opinion that a small machine that can do it all is just the ticket.
Paul Sikkema
@Bill, I welcome your comments. Yes there are still two or three people who still want to use a Garden Tractor for gardening work. The rest have switched to a sub-compact or compact tractor. The sub-compacts all have standard 3 pt hitches, 540 PTO and hydraulics. Most have power steering and take many attachments the 70’s garden tractor couldn’t. The prices are very comparable to the old garden tractors and are a much better value than today’s cars and pickup trucks when you factor in inflation. Kubota and the suburban homeowner killed the garden tractor.
I want to agree with you about Garden Tractors but there have been a couple of tractors introduced specifically to replace the Allis G (The Bosco Mutt for example) over the last ten years that have fallen on flat sales.
Here is a paragraph I wrote about why the new Raven MPV-7100 is such a hit.
“50 years ago our grandparents wanted a tractor that did work out in the garden and almost as an afterthought mowed lawns. You raised your own vegetables and canned what you needed for the winter. You had small lawns just around the house. The rest of your property was left to nature. That was the hey-day of garden tractors. Heavy, bulky machines that had rudimentary mowing decks. The old tractors like the Cub Cadet’s could plow your garden, grade your gravel driveway and then mow your small lawn. That started to change in the late 70′s. Back then we wanted a nice suburban lawn and riding mowers and lawn tractors were introduced. By the 80′s most of us only had small gardens if at all and we all wanted a beautiful suburban lawn. The garden tractor slowly changed into primarily a lawn mowing machine. The zero-turn was born so we could mow that lawn quickly and then go do something else.
But just as our life style has changed from work-rest-work so has our priorities for our yards. Many of us now want to work-so-we-can-play and the majority of us want to mow our lawn as quickly as possible and then go out and do other things with our time. If we do want to work around the homestead we want a work vehicle that will haul stuff…and mow the lawn. The new Raven MPV-7100 does this well and just may be the right outdoor appliance for you.”
jeremy
I just bought a Greenstar 5 tiller for 100 bucks. It seems to be a nice tiller stored indoors it’s entire life. I has forward and reverse, obviously a front tine tiller and slow, medium and fast. It says its made by TSC industries. I did some research and we have a tractor supply company in Alton Illinois, i’m assuming it was made by or for them. It has 4, I guess tines, four blades each. It has a 5hp Briggs and Stratton motor. Is this a good tiller and where can I get parts for it. Also main question , who made it. It looks like it was put away rough and dirty so I had assumed it was running when put away. I cleaned the spark plug and poured a little gas in the carb and it fired right up. 100 bucks I didn’t do bad I don’t think but would sure appreciate the help in finding out more about this since I can’t find a shred of anything about it on the internet. And last of all ur site is amazing, I’ve spent the last 3 hours reading posts and learning about the different needs and requirements of lawn tractors. That 4 wheel drive lawnmower video on youtube was amazing I want one for fun, but it needs a backseat for the wife.
JC half acre land, planting a garden. Thanks
David Hine
You fail to mention Murray lawn products in many of your articles. They were manufactured in Lawrenceburg,TN and I believe the name brand has been bought out by Briggs & Stratton
Lawrenceburg,TN
Paul Sikkema
@David, It’s so easy to forget about Murray because no one carries them except WalMart and my local Super Wally-World doesn’t carry riders. Yes, Briggs & Stratton continues to tell the press that they are not going to produce anymore “box store” crap, but yet each year this stuff shows up at Wal-Mart and Menards.
What’s really interesting is Briggs & Stratton does even make the riders. They are all clearly made for them by MTD.
Here is the link to the website: Murray.com